[Isomorphic]

Would a com.smartgwtee.tools.ToolsNoTheme enhancement be possible as well? It would most likely break all the tools depending on the three extra skins, but provide a fully functional Developer Console. If not this is also OK, but if it is no work for you, it would be nice.

We don't currently plan this, since again, there's no particular reason to omit the Themes, so long as we can resolve whatever issue is making your GWT linker run slowly.

[Blama]

Hi Isomorphic,

this BuiltInDS.gwt.xml gives me Developer Console + Simplicity, what I have been looking for.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE module PUBLIC "-//Google Inc.//DTD Google Web Toolkit 2.5.1//EN"
   "http://google-web-toolkit.googlecode.com/svn/tags/2.5.1/distro-source/core/src/gwt-module.dtd">
<module rename-to="builtinds">
	<inherits name='com.google.gwt.user.User' />
	<inherits name="com.smartgwt.tools.[B]SmartGwtToolsNoTheme[/B]" />
        <!-- <inherits name="com.smartgwtee.tools.Tools"/> -->
	<inherits name="com.smartgwtee.SmartGwtEENoScriptNoTheme" />
	<inherits name="com.smartclient.theme.simplicity.SimplicityResources" />
	<entry-point class='com.smartgwt.sample.client.BuiltInDS' />
</module>

Unfortunately it also disables the Server Log, which is a nice feature. So I'll have to assess what is more important to me, but most likely I'll keep the tools.

2. we recommend deploying the tools and restricting access. This is covered under Tools Deployment in the docs.

Thanks for the hint, I did not read it so far or forgot about it.

3. the Developer Console will automatically attempt to use the main application's skin if the Enterprise skin is not present. This can result in visual issues, since the Developer Console may use text colors that have poor contrast with your custom skin, so we generally recommend keeping the Enterprise skin present.

Thanks, in general this is working (I also found the skin-check in Log.html), but due to the problem above, I'll most likely keep Tools as you suggested and wait for a fix for the SuperDevMode Linking problem.

Would a com.smartgwtee.tools.ToolsNoTheme enhancement be possible as well? It would most likely break all the tools depending on the three extra skins, but provide a fully functional Developer Console. If not this is also OK, but if it is no work for you, it would be nice.

Thank you & Best regards
Blama

[Isomorphic]

As far as your questions:

1. com.smartgwt.tools.SmartGwtTools gets you the Developer Console, com.smartgwtee.tools.Tools includes all tools from the commercial edition. It's the commercial tools that require (or potentially require, depending on settings) Graphite, Toolskin and ToolskinNative.

2. we recommend deploying the tools and restricting access. This is covered under Tools Deployment in the docs.

3. the Developer Console will automatically attempt to use the main application's skin if the Enterprise skin is not present. This can result in visual issues, since the Developer Console may use text colors that have poor contrast with your custom skin, so we generally recommend keeping the Enterprise skin present.

Normally, there is no particular motivation to minimize these files. However, we're aware that in a separate thread, you've reported that your GWT compiler is slowing down in SuperDevMode on the linking phase, seemingly related to static resources in skins, which is a motivation for minimizing resources which will disappear if we can figure out why you're getting that slowdown, so let's continue that discussion in that thread.

[Blama]

Hello Isomorphic,

this is my BuiltInDS.gwt.xml:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE module PUBLIC "-//Google Inc.//DTD Google Web Toolkit 2.5.1//EN"
   "http://google-web-toolkit.googlecode.com/svn/tags/2.5.1/distro-source/core/src/gwt-module.dtd">
<module rename-to="builtinds">
	<inherits name='com.google.gwt.user.User' />
	<inherits name="com.smartgwt.tools.SmartGwtTools" />
	<inherits name="com.smartgwtee.tools.Tools" />
	<inherits name="com.smartgwtee.SmartGwtEENoScriptNoTheme" />
	<inherits name="com.smartclient.theme.enterprise.EnterpriseResources" /> 
	
    <!-- Uncomment lines below for GWT Super Dev Mode Support:
       - both lines needed for GWT < 2.6, only the first line needed for GWT < 2.7
       - see http://www.smartclient.com/docs/release/a/b/c/go.html#group..debugging -->
    <!-- <add-linker name="xsiframe" />                                             -->
    <!-- <set-configuration-property name="devModeRedirectEnabled" value="true" />  -->

    <!-- Uncomment lines below for GWT "stack emulation" with file/line number info -->
    <!-- <set-property               name="compiler.stackMode"  value="emulated" /> -->
    <!-- <set-configuration-property name="compiler.emulatedStack.recordFileNames"
                                     value="true" />                                -->
    <!-- <set-configuration-property name="compiler.emulatedStack.recordLineNumbers"
                                     value="true" />                                -->

	<entry-point class='com.smartgwt.sample.client.BuiltInDS' />
</module>

I followed all four SmartGWT/SmartClient inherits to the leaf level. This is my result:

<inherits name="com.smartgwt.tools.SmartGwtTools" />
	<inherits name="com.smartgwt.SmartGwtNoSmartClient"/>
	<inherits name="com.smartclient.theme.enterprise.EnterpriseResources"/>
	<inherits name="com.smartclient.tools.SmartClientTools"/>
	
<inherits name="com.smartgwtee.tools.Tools" />
	<inherits name='com.smartclientee.tools.Tools'/>
	
<inherits name="com.smartgwtee.SmartGwtEENoScriptNoTheme" />
	<inherits name="com.smartgwt.SmartGwtNoScriptNoTheme"/>
	<inherits name='com.smartclientee.SmartClientEENoScriptNoTheme'/>
		<inherits name="com.smartclient.SmartClientNoScriptNoTheme" />

<inherits name="com.smartclient.theme.enterprise.EnterpriseResources" />

I did not hit a /com/smartclient/theme/graphite/GraphiteResources.gwt.xml inherit or similar. Nevertheless these are generated:

BuiltInDS\builtinds\sc\skins\Enterprise
BuiltInDS\builtinds\sc\skins\Graphite
BuiltInDS\builtinds\sc\skins\ToolSkin
BuiltInDS\builtinds\sc\skins\ToolSkinNative

While I understand that Enterprise is there, I do not understand why the others are.

Also, out of interest:

1. What is behind Tools? More than DeveloperConsole? Because I'd only need it, no Visual Builder, no DataSourceConsole(adminConsole.jsp), no bmmlImporter.jsp, basically nothing that is not related to DeveloperConsole under builtinds\tools.
   Is there a way to archive this?
2. Do you suggest a different inherits-setup for Development and Production? Or should one just restrict access to Developer Console via webserver access rules?
3. Is it possible to run Developer Console with a custom skin, the same my application uses? Because then I'd also not need the EnterpriseResources

Best regards
Blama

[Isomorphic]

What is it that you're saying is wrong here? The Tools include would be expected to include the resources needed by the Tools; that's not a bug.

[Blama]

Hi Isomorphic,

this is still valid with v10.0p_2015-05-14 and causes a reasonable delay in linking, also in SuperDevMode, see this thread.

Best regards
Blama

[Blama]

Double checked it (using v9.1p_2014-05-25).

These are really filled directories. Please see this text file.

Please note the following:
- There are serveral load_skin.js.gz and skin_styles.css.gz files.
- ToolSkinNative has no images

Best regards,
Blama

This is still valid.
I tried with this BuiltInDS.gwt.xml:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE module PUBLIC "-//Google Inc.//DTD Google Web Toolkit 2.5.1//EN"
   "http://google-web-toolkit.googlecode.com/svn/tags/2.5.1/distro-source/core/src/gwt-module.dtd">
<module rename-to="builtinds">
	<inherits name='com.google.gwt.user.User' />
[B]	<inherits name="com.smartgwt.tools.SmartGwtTools" />
	<inherits name="com.smartgwtee.tools.Tools" />
[/B]	<inherits name="com.smartgwt.SmartGwtNoScript" />
	<set-property name="user.agent" value="gecko1_8" />
	<entry-point class='com.smartgwt.sample.client.BuiltInDS' />
</module>

It results from the tools include. The following file (from an older post) works as expected:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE module PUBLIC "-//Google Inc.//DTD Google Web Toolkit 2.5.1//EN"
   "http://google-web-toolkit.googlecode.com/svn/tags/2.5.1/distro-source/core/src/gwt-module.dtd">
<module rename-to="builtinds">
    <inherits name='com.google.gwt.user.User'/>
    <inherits name="com.smartgwtee.SmartGwtEENoScript"/>
    <set-property name="user.agent" value="gecko1_8" />
    <entry-point class='com.smartgwt.sample.client.BuiltInDS'/>
</module>

I think that the behaviour can't be correct with all the *.gz-files. Also I had my build.xml delete the files and everything worked as expected.
If it is not a bug and indeed needed for the Tools include as you said above, it's fine for me as well.

Best regards,
Blama

[Blama]

Sorry, wrong testcase. Will double-check.

[Blama]

The problem with ToolSkin, ToolSkinNative, and Graphite skins being copied unconditionally should be fixed in SGWT 5.0d/4.1p. Check the next nightly builds.

Hi Isomorphic,

just to let you know: This is not fixed for me in v9.1p_2014-05-25.
I just built the BuiltInDS sample using the shipped build.xml.

Best regards,
Blama

[Isomorphic]

Hi Isomorphic,

I definitely see this behaviour, even for a simple build of SmartGWTEE builtInDS-sample:

I use this BuiltInDS.gwt.xml (only change to plain v9.1p_2014-05-11/EVAL Deployment 2014-05-11) and do a default build with the build.xml

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE module PUBLIC "-//Google Inc.//DTD Google Web Toolkit 2.5.1//EN"
   "http://google-web-toolkit.googlecode.com/svn/tags/2.5.1/distro-source/core/src/gwt-module.dtd">
<module rename-to="builtinds">
    <inherits name='com.google.gwt.user.User'/>
    <inherits name="com.smartgwtee.SmartGwtEENoScript"/>
    <set-property name="user.agent" value="gecko1_8" />
    <entry-point class='com.smartgwt.sample.client.BuiltInDS'/>
</module>

Result: Generated directories Graphite, ToolSkin, ToolSkinNative as described.

Best regards,
Blama

The problem with ToolSkin, ToolSkinNative, and Graphite skins being copied unconditionally should be fixed in SGWT 5.0d/4.1p. Check the next nightly builds.

[Isomorphic]

Sorry, we could have made that clearer. It's present in current versions of the 5.0d line, but was merged back to 4.1p. You might expect to see it there as early as next week.

[Blama]

Hi Isomorphic,

I did not find a SmartGwt(EE)NoScriptNoTheme.gwt.xml, neither in com.smartgwt nor in com.smartgwtee.
I checked in current nightly v9.1p_2014-05-21/EVAL Deployment's smartgwtee.jar.

Best regards,
Blama

[Isomorphic]

We've gone ahead and created the NoScriptNoTheme variant, which should be available in tomorrow's build (2014-05-20).

[Blama]

Adding

<inherits name="com.smartgwt.tools.SmartGwtTools"/>
<inherits name="com.smartgwtee.tools.Tools"/>

also adds the Enterprise skin-dir, most likely because of the contents of smartgwtee.jar:com.smartgwt.tools/SmartGwtTools.gwt.xml:

<!--
Packages the files required to run the Developer Console. You must inherit this
module if you want to launch the Developer Console using SC.showConsole()
-->        
<module>
    <inherits name='com.google.gwt.user.User'/>
    <inherits name="com.google.gwt.xml.XML"/>
    <inherits name="com.google.gwt.i18n.I18N"/>    
    <inherits name="com.google.gwt.json.JSON"/>
    <inherits name="com.google.gwt.http.HTTP"/>
    <inherits name="com.google.gwt.event.Event"/>

    <inherits name="com.smartgwt.SmartGwtNoSmartClient"/>
    [B]<inherits name="com.smartclient.theme.enterprise.EnterpriseResources"/>[/B]
    <inherits name="com.smartclient.tools.SmartClientTools"/>

</module>

Best regards,
Blama

[Blama]

Hi Isomorphic,

I definitely see this behaviour, even for a simple build of SmartGWTEE builtInDS-sample:

I use this BuiltInDS.gwt.xml (only change to plain v9.1p_2014-05-11/EVAL Deployment 2014-05-11) and do a default build with the build.xml

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE module PUBLIC "-//Google Inc.//DTD Google Web Toolkit 2.5.1//EN"
   "http://google-web-toolkit.googlecode.com/svn/tags/2.5.1/distro-source/core/src/gwt-module.dtd">
<module rename-to="builtinds">
    <inherits name='com.google.gwt.user.User'/>
    <inherits name="com.smartgwtee.SmartGwtEENoScript"/>
    <set-property name="user.agent" value="gecko1_8" />
    <entry-point class='com.smartgwt.sample.client.BuiltInDS'/>
</module>

Result: Generated directories Graphite, ToolSkin, ToolSkinNative as described.

Best regards,
Blama