Windows Legacy
Any chance of a Windows Legacy skin, akin to that in the older SmartClient versions?
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The look & feel of the gwt-ext skins hould all be ported! This was a really great interface.
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2) you like SilverWave but you need / prefer to use the ubiquitous Outlook look and feel, so there's no chance anyone will object to your application's appearance.
Personally, I am fine with SilverWave. But having Outlook L&F will make our customers feel they are playing with a standard desktop application. Please note that one of the reasons that stop Java Swing from being popular is because its default look and feel is not even close to native applications.
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Take this with a huge grain of salt, because not only am I not a designer, but I have bad taste.
Someone said previously that SilverWave is childish, that is not the word I would use. I would say it seems a little unprofessional. I think the gradients should be more subtle, and if there was a way to control which canvases had gradients and which didn't that would be great. I think the dark colors should be lighter, I mean the button of the gradients, the title bar of grids and trees, etc.... I think maybe gray would look better, and its neutrality I think would make the GUI elements seem more professional.
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Another +1 for a blue and gray theme. Now the themes are so fancy it might as well be a digital candy store. Maybe there is also a change to get rid of a part of the images as there are so many right now.
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Please do not use gradient fill where it is not necessary
Please do not use gradient fill where it is not necessary.
Why would you have it on a form or inside input field?
http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase/#layout_form_splitting
If I access it via remote desktop over VPN things become too slow when there are too much bitmap variations.
Thanks,
--MG
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I declare beforehand that I'm not a designer, and also I must say sorry for my English :-)
> 1) you need to match / intermix with existing designs
> where SilverWave might clash
well, my existing designs are based on a #181ea5 blue. When I tried extjs I found it a better match. But SilverWave it's not bad at all either, only I think that some of its components don't mix well as in TreeFrog, for example. More on that later.
2) you like SilverWave but you need / prefer to use the ubiquitous Outlook look and feel, so there's no chance anyone will object to your application's appearance.
well, this could be a good argument :-)
3) at as an aesthetic level you just don't like SilverWave as much (what specifically don't you like, if you can share? Could changes to SilverWave make it preferable to a more Outlook-like look and feel for you?)
here I'm trying to compare the showcase application in SilverWave to that in TreeFrog.
The ListGrid Header under the SectionHeader: I like much more the contrast in the TreeFrog skin. In the SilverWave skin, I just don't feel it's right. Maybe the ListGrid Header darker than the SectionHeader is the coulprit?
I like the scrollbars, but maybe too dark the "scroll track"?
Also, I like more the TreeFrog's TabBar, maybe they have a better 3d look.
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1) you need to match / intermix with existing designs where SilverWave might clash
Yes
2) you like SilverWave but you need / prefer to use the ubiquitous Outlook look and feel, so there's no chance anyone will object to your application's appearance.
No. I don't particularly fancy the L&F of Silverwave. The colors are too dark. It also has a non standard scrollbar and splitter.
3) at as an aesthetic level you just don't like SilverWave as much (what specifically don't you like, if you can share? Could changes to SilverWave make it preferable to a more Outlook-like look and feel for you?)
It's possible but unless I see silverwave with a lighter color its hard to say.
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Low Bandwidth Skin
I'd like to second the earlier comment requesting an imageless skin - current deployments to Google Application Engine have bandwidth quotas, and such a skin would increase the volume of users before the quota is reached. Going forward, once GAE bandwidth can be paid for, it saves money :) - think in terms of a GMail like interface, but with the data bound components of SmartClient. Cheers,
Colin
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